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  While we are talking about S-E-X….

  Posted: August 10th, 2010, 11:34am EDT by nataliewrites

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  If you are under the age of 18, please do not read below. Yeah, I know. I just pretty much assured that anyone who IS under the age of 18 and happens upon this blog will now read below, because it’s one of those, “The light, the light, I can’t look away….” type thingies.

  An acquaintance of mine who is writing a book recently contacted me to ask for some help with research. And so I referred him to a friend that I shall call MetalMan. I don’t identify people by name on this blog, as in the past I have been stalked and harassed by certain crazy people who shall ALSO remain unnamed, because if I say that certain person’s name, they will surely hunt me down again and . . I do not wish this on anyone. This strange semi-celebrity that comes with being an author is just weird.

  MetalMan sent some time reading my blog, and then sent me this fascinating information about the LDS singles scene. He gave me permission to share it.

  I was reading your blog last night and thought I might share something’s that are going on in the LDS singles community.
  You may already know about these issues, but I will tell you anyway just in case:

  In the temple ceremony there is a line that use to go something like this:  I covenant to have sexual intercourse, only with my legally and lawfully wedded husband/wife.
  Now it reads: sexual relations instead of intercourse.

  It gave LDS singles an out, so they could enjoy any sex except intercourse.   LDS singles could enjoy mutual hand jobs, shared oral sex, whatever, now there is nothing.  Couples are breaking up because they want to have sex with each other and they aren’t ready to get married, even if they are in love.

  Some couples are getting married after knowing each other a short time and getting divorced in a short time.

  Some LDS singles refuse to go out, because they know they won’t be able to resist having sexual relations with someone.  So they live in loneliness.

  Some singles, after confessing to their bishops,  are being advised to break it off with their partners, if they are having sex outside of marriage, even if they are in love.

  Bishops are asking promiscuous singles, who their sex partners are, then sending the information on to the partner’s Bishop so they can discipline that person.

  In short, there used to be an OUT for Mormon singles. I did not realize this as a Molly. Although I was never a very good Molly. I always thought the private stuff was to stay private, and any kind of sex was a huge sin. Still working through those issues, even though I KNOW it’s silly.

  But being a single LDS person is a tough road. Base human nature requires we touch other humans. Babies who are not held die. The human touch, and intimacy, is a very strong drive, and I know that even for those of us outside of the Mormon community, the intimacy of touch shared with another human being is one of the greatest losses of being single.

  Now, the LDS Church would like to TOTALLY take that right away from all homosexuals, even while admitting that they do not believe homosexuality is a choice. WTF? If you know it’s not a choice, and there are already too many people in this world, why DO YOU CARE? Why are you spending millions of dollars to STOP people from TOUCHING each other, which is a very basic human need.

  How can this be justified?

  Religion seems to bring out the worst in some people.

  
  And for others, it’s making them very, very funny.

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  There’s gonna be trouble…trouble right here in Salt Lake City… (sing along)

  Posted: August 8th, 2010, 2:19pm EDT by nataliewrites

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  So, apparently, the federal judge who overturned the hateful Proposition 8, is gay. Wow! Crazy! It’s a conspiracy! Heterosexual marriage as we know it is O.V.E.R. Because everybody knows that once gay couples can marry, all the heterosexuals are going to…uh, well all of them will most likely stop having sex with each other because…. Uh. Well, Dammit, somehow or another it’s going to affect marriage as we know it. Instead of two people making a commitment to each other, it will be… Hmmm.

  Yeah, basically I can’t see how gay marriage is ANY threat to straight people. Procreation really isn’t a problem, because this world is already overcrowded. And there are plenty of babies being born every day. And the only time a marriage is threatened by an outside homosexual is when the OTHER person in the marriage is already homosexual and has been fighting it for years, because of THE CHURCH or SOCIETY told them it was wrong to be gay.
  And as for Walker being gay, who gives a rat’s ass? If you use the theory that he should not be allowed to rule on Proposition 8 because of his own orientation, then you will have to go back and review all the cases where male judges made decisions regarding males, and female judges made decisions on females, and where homosexual judges make rulings on homosexual cases and where heterosexual judges made rulings on heterosexual cases.

  Frankly, Walker was appointed by Bush, so the right wing conservatives have only themselves to blame. Heh.

  But it will be interesting to see the newest tactics of the Mormons to try to keep those pesky gay people from… uh… living happy, productive, passionate lives.

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  Justice…for a while

  Posted: August 5th, 2010, 9:43am EDT by nataliewrites

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  As I’m sure everyone knows, in a huge blow for the h8ters, California’s stupid Prop 8 was overturned.

  I’m sure that the apostles of the Mormon Church are gathered together today in a lush conference room somewhere in the Joseph Smith Building, and discussing their NEXT game plan.

  Despite the fact it should NOT be one, it is indeed a very religious issue.

  Will be interesting to see what happens. But for now….

  YAY! Love is love. And everyone deserves the right to marry.

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  George P. Lee dies

  Posted: July 31st, 2010, 3:02pm EDT by nataliewrites

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  I just read that the first Native American General Authority died today. George P. Lee was popular in the “white and delightsome” days of the Book of Mormon, before it was changed from “white” to “pure.”

  I am getting ready to publish a book that explores the LDS Church’s Indian Placement Program, and all the discrimination and problems that went with it, including Spencer W. Kimball’s emphasis, “See those kids there. They are in our church, so they are getting whiter. WHOOPEE.” (I paraphrased that. Big time. BIIIIIG time. Just so you know.) What SWK really said was:

  “… the Indians “are fast becoming a white and delightsome people.” He said, “The [Indian] children in the home placement program in Utah are often lighter than their brothers and sisters in the hogans on the reservation” (Improvement Era, December 1960, pp. 922-3).

  Of course, these days, the “most correct” book on earth, The Book of Mormon, which has been altered and edited thousands of times, says it is PURE and delightsome. How does one answer that one?

  I can’t wait to see the discussions on this one.

  Frankly, the Indian (Lamanite Placement Program) was nothing short of a dismal failure. It is no longer in practice, although I have fond memories of two “Navajo” brothers that lived in our already crowded house. They went on to lead regular, Native American lives, having nothing to do with Mormonism. Can’t say I blame them.

  A church that wants you to be “whiter” to fit in just doesn’t really cut it.

  George P. Lee was a rather tragic figure, as he was later excommunicated from the LDS Church and accused of sexual abuse. Actually, I believe he “admitted to attempted” child sex abuse.

  Boy was that a black eye for the IPP and the Church. They didn’t play that game again. No Native American has been a general authority since, and probably hasn’t really wanted to do so.

  But it brings forth lots of issues and questions about the propriety of baptizing Native American children and bringing them into homes and trying to make them white. And that is EXACTLY what the church was trying to do. And why did the Native American parents agree to it? Let’s see, a chance to live in a “rich, white” community and go to a “rich, white” school and get a “rich, white” education. I can’t say I blame them. I understand them wanting more for their children.

  I am just unsure they got it. I would love to hear some positive stories, or just stories about this in children.

  So discuss, folks.

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  I love technology….

  Posted: July 28th, 2010, 5:32pm EDT by nataliewrites

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  I just ordered a pizza FROM THE INTERNET. FROM MY BED. Now don’t get the wrong idea. I do not weigh 1000 pounds and I won’t be eating the pizza myself. I can’t have wheat or bread, so the pizza is for Birdman and Dancing Daughter. And I am suffering from a Meniere’s day, so food doesn’t tickle my fancy.

  But PEOPLE, I ordered a PIZZA from my bed. That’s cool.

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  But I just wanted him to ANSWER THE QUESTION

  Posted: July 28th, 2010, 10:05pm EDT by nataliewrites

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  Ya know, the lovely talk of civility, and the smell of Todd in the air, still doesn’t change the fact that I JUST wanted him to answer the question. And he has NOT answered the question.

  Why? Todd, why not? I’m not going to call you names, or insult you. But PLEASE answer the question.

  In case you have forgotten, here it is:

  If there is a first vision, WHY ARE THERE THREE OR MORE DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF IT?

  With different people. Written differently. Edited, perhaps. WHY? Why, if God came to Joseph Smith when he was 14 did he CHANGE THE STORY so many times?

  Answer that.
  For the very first time on this blog, ANSWER THE QUESTION. And if you don’t, we all know the fraud you are. And the fraud the Church you support is.

  Look, I was involved in the ex-Mormon conference where we tried to open a dialogue with Mormons, and involve the two groups together. It was a complete failure. If we DON’T believe what they believe, they won’t listen. End of story. So it’s okay. You can admonish me, or advise me, and JA and Kent, I get your point. But see, I’ve been there, done that, got the T-shirt. If you show weakness, they move in for the kill. I choose to not show that weakness. Civility will not work. Tried it. But, I promise I will be civil for an ENTIRE MONTH if Todd will JUST address my question, quoted above? Fair nuff?

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  Tomorrow…

  Posted: July 23rd, 2010, 11:27pm EDT by nataliewrites

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  … My life will change. For I am choosing to take a big step. I will marry Birdman tomorrow, because I feel we need the commitment, and so does he. For our children. For us. For life.

  I have had many nasty comments, and emails, from this blog. I have dealt with them. But tomorrow my life starts new. Completely new. Over. And I feel very positive about this.

  My point? Send your nasty emails and comments. Call me names (Todd), or call me out. I will answer. I can be called out, and I am not afraid to answer. I am also not afraid to admit when I am wrong.

  And this, I think, is why Birdman and I will work. Because not only is HE not afraid to admit when he is wrong, but neither am I. That, folks, is the bottom line. Truth is only truth as far as you can prove it. TRUTH doesn’t come from something that has no bearings, background, facts, or baseline sensibility.

  The truth is, I don’t know what will happen tomorrow, but if I hurt Birdman, I apologize. And he apologizes to me if he hurts me. We are a man and a woman, both so different, but both so willing to make it work.

  Tomorrow is a new day. I wish you all a new day. I am lucky. I know this. I hope the same for all of you.

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  Todd, let me simplify this….

  Posted: July 23rd, 2010, 10:44pm EDT by nataliewrites

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  …it can’t get easier.

  ANSWER THE QUESTION.

  If there is a first vision, WHY ARE THERE THREE OR MORE DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF IT?

  With different people. Written differently. Edited, perhaps. WHY? Why, if God came to Joseph Smith when he was 14 did he CHANGE THE STORY so many times?

  Answer that.
  For the very first time on this blog, ANSWER THE QUESTION. And if you don’t, we all know the fraud you are. And the fraud the Church you support is.

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  Patriarchy at its FINEST, or Prick-hoodiest. You decide

  Posted: July 22nd, 2010, 10:42pm EDT by nataliewrites

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  I’ve noticed that our friend Todd responds to me with anger, nastiness, and profanity. Particularly if I should dare to use PROFANITY (oh, sacred woman of Zion) myself. Welcome to patriarchy.

  PATRIARCHY. Where men think they OWN women, because a woman can only “hold” the Priesthood through her MAN. Kiss my ass. My body is just as worthy of God’s blessings, whatever they are, as yours. Your PENIS does not give you priority or seniority, or any other kind of ORITY over me.

  You want to make excuses for WHY GOD GAVE THE PRIESTHOOD TO MEN? Please, Todd, address that. Don’t circle it. Or demean me on my own blog in an attempt to cover the fact that you just don’t FUCKING know. Why are men superior to women? I admit the fact that the world is your toilet is admirable, and women don’t have the same ability, but THIS IS A BASE FUNCTION. The most BASE and degrading functions of our very, very, human bodies. We must excrete waste.

  The fact you have a PENIS does not make you better than me. So stop talking down to me. And if you can’t? GO away. My brain is every bit as functional as yours, and my spirit is just as strong, and GUESS WHAT? I can see your tomfoolery and spinning and circular thought patterns, apparently much better than you can.

  You NEVER address an issue. NEVER. You just circle around it.

  Tell me this, Todd.

  If YOUR CHURCH is the only true church, there should be ONE SOLID FOUNDATION. And yet, there are THREE, count em, THREE, different versions of the first vision, complete with different personages.

  If it HAPPENED, it damn sure better have happened one way. That is the ONLY WAY it can be truth. Otherwise, it’s just someone’s feelings or delusions, or better yet, dreams.

  So tell me, Todd. HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THREE DIFFERENT VERSIONS?

  Put your penis away and use your brain. How does that work? Please tell us all. The world is waiting to know.

  This, my friend, is a FULL OUT CALL to answer. Address ONLY this question. How do you explain THREE different versions of the first vision, all from the same man, all with different people, and yet CALL THIS TRUTH? Does truth have fourteen names? Truth is TRUTH.

  So explain it. And avoid the name calling and every other part of revisionist church history.

  EXPLAIN how you can have three different versions of “one” event, and yet call all three truth. EXPLAIN. And put your penis away. I don’t want to see it.

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  Hyrum officials in trouble for allowing Spanish prayer at PUBLIC Fourth of July ceremony

  Posted: July 21st, 2010, 9:02pm EDT by nataliewrites

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  Um, I’m nor really sure I even need to explain this. It was a prayer, and it was NOT on the actual fourth, because, God forbid, we celebrate our country’s freedom, with a prayer in Spanish, on the FOURTH, instead of the fifth or third.

  Mind boggling.

  
  

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